i was raised on air force bases in the us and asia until i was 10 or 11. my mother divorced my father while he was on an unaccompanied tour in turkey and hooked up with my uncle.
she married him and his children became our step-brothers and sisters.
i saw my father once when he got back to the states and not again until almost 30 years later.. after two years, my uncle put his children in an orphanage and my mother dispersed her children to the four winds so she could be free to be with my uncle without all the problems eight children who hated each other brought.. my story begins in 1977 in an old farm house in corinth, kentucky, without running water or heat, just electricity for lights and cooking.
WELCOME!
Very sad and heart-wrenching story! We are so glad you are here with us. 49 yrs in that cult myself and so I understand how damaging and vindictive they can be.
Our family hopes and prays that you will now find peace and even tho your daughter is an adult we hope that you will get your kids back to you mentally.
after today's watchtower study which was basically a mind controlling article about shunning your loved disfellowshipped ones, i've come to see just how sick, twisted, vile, rotten, repulsive, disgusting, and just plain evil you all are.
so i stormed out.
i don't know if i'll ever come back to your meetings again.
Well, Oneday, it looks like your day is here and you are FREE. I love your rant and agree with you. My family is shunning me and nothing is even 'official' that I have either DA'd myself or have been DF'd. I love your storming out of the KH! Peace to you!
yestarday all our elders were invited to a one day meeting urgently .i know they had their elders meeting few months ago .does anyone know what it was about .i heard from the grapevine that among other issues disgussed was a)how to deal with disfellowshipped ones and, b) how to offer councel to fellow elders .any elder attended this meeting in britain please feel free to share some info.
I don't know anything about those meetings, but I do know that about a week ago there were some of those meetings in other countries. It sounded like they were about 9 hours long.
Here's the thread regarding those:
this is a perfect example of how the cult mind-control fear, hate...etc works in the jw mind.. sorry this is going to be a long post.
these are emails from the 2 days worth of conversations, so it's going to be long.. this was a message i got from my cousins mom...this was the first email i got.. i was recently informed of your fathers recent visit to his mother and the volatile conversation he had with her and the apostate things he said about jehovah's organization.
i did not talk to your grandmother and hear from her personally but through and reliable friend whom i trust explicitly that talked with her.
Proud of you Sweetie. I just wish one of them would call or email me so that I could ask them what in particular was said to G'ma by Hubby that could even be considered 'apostate'????? Not one of them has contacted us and asked. But it does show how critical and judgemental they are.....and speaking with 49 years of this mind-control myself, I know how they think.
badwillie wrote the following experience about an ignorant comment from a do:.
case in point:.
a friend received a full scholarship from a local college to study to become a veternarian.
Dear Amazing, Did your CO incident happen at a DC in Phoenix, AZ? My husband & I are remembering a similar incident that happened in Phx. We're thinking the 80's sometime.
Either that or the jackass CO did it in Phx also.
He even rapped on the microphone and made such a loud obnoxious sound that you just wanted to go beat the crap out of him.
star trek claimed to be fantasy and in fact, was fantasy.. wts claims to be the sole truth on earth and in fact, is fantasy.. star trek had spock who solved problems with logic.. wts has a gb who solves problems with bullshit.. star trek had a pompous ass charismatic leader whom everyone loved to watch rant and emote.
wts had three pompous ass charismatic leaders whom everyone hated to watch rant and emote.. captain kirk was always saving his people from new disasters.. wt leaders are always leading its people into new disasters.. star trek made money by always giving its fans the stuff they wanted.. wts makes money by always charging its fans for stuff neither they nor anyone else else wants.. people had fun when star trek came on.. people would rather have a root canal when meetings come on.. star trek was all about making the cosmos a better place for all.. wts is all about making the cosmos a better place for a few and killing everyone else.. people love to go to star trek conventions.. people would rather be in an earthquake than go to wts conventions.. star trek had a transporter room.. people in meetings wish they also had a transporter room.. star trek had lots of insane villains.. wts had judge rutherford and fred franz.
same thing.. star trek also had lots of good guys.. good guys are banished from the wts.. star trek had the klingons who spoke a bizarre language.. wts had fred franz who spoke an even more bizarre language.. star trek had all sorts of devices which could cure most any medical problems, but of course, they were science fiction.. wts had the electronic radio biola which it sold and said could cure most any medical problem, but of course, that was science fiction.. star trek had floppy disks, computers you could talk to and flat screen monitors all of which were about 50 years ahead-of-their time.. wts had vaccines which were called "filthy animal pus", humans hearts which were the seat of all emotions, organ transplants which were cannibalistic, human personalities which were also transferred with blood transfusions and black people turning white by reading their literature, all of which were 100 years behihd-their-time.. if you missed a few star trek episodes in a row, no one came by to harrass you.. if you miss a few meetings in a row, you are in deep shit.. star trek tv shows and movies are still played all the time, even after 47 years.. wts dramas never even play a second time.
If Klingon's are hunting you down, they usually have a good reason and it's all about HONOR
Elder's don't need any reason to hunt you down and it has nothing to do with HONOR
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i have been lurking here for about a month or two.
it is really awesome to read so many similar experiences.. for example, when i was still 'in' i wondered if i was the only one in the hall that really hated the meetings.
WELCOME! Glad to have you here.
have you ever been in a congregation (or circuit) where elders have made very bad choices on spending congegation funds?.
(summary if you don't want to read it all: elders planning to squander money on an expensive hall refurbishment while kh flat is falling apart).
i know there were assembly halls like dudley who spent a lot of money on their kitchens just before the food arrangements were done away with.
Interesting. Keep us posted as to the outcome.
There was an interesting mis-use of Cong. funds in our KH. The P.O gets up on the platform and tells us what a great deal our cong. can get on a riding lawn tractor. Then proceeds to ask for a motion & show of hands. Then goes "oh good, I'm glad you all agree because 'I' already bought it."
WHAT????
isn't that misuse of funds since the $$$ belongs to the cong? Then lying about it by making us vote for it when it was already a done deal?
I'm sure there are some more great stories out there about this subject.
here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .
from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.
a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.
Lied2no more & Annomaly are correct, the WT Lib is full of Daniel P. Mannix quotes. Even in the 'School Brochure' under flag saluting. Here is one of the more interesting quotes from the 1975 Awake 12/8 pg 3-4:
That is the way Christians in the early centuries felt. You can read in history books of the efforts made by Roman officials to get early Christians to make sacrifices to the “genius” of the emperor, even by such a small act as putting a pinch of incense on the altar as a sacrifice. Of Christians brought into Roman arenas to die, one history says: “Very few of the Christians recanted, although an altar with a fire burning on it was generally kept in the arena for their convenience. All a prisoner had to do was scatter a pinch of incense on the flame and he was given a Certificate of Sacrifice and turned free. . . . Still, almost no Christians availed themselves of the chance to escape.”—ThoseAbouttoDie, Daniel P. Mannix, pp. 135, 137.
good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
THANK YOU!!!
Very happy to be here!
